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    • Mark ColvinM Offline
      Mark Colvin @Terry R
      last edited by Mark Colvin

      @Terry-R ,

      1. This laptop computer is running a complete Win11 Pro OS. - MAC is named related identification.
      2. Not recently checked plugin versioning. I will do that soon. [edit] performed plug-in updates, still crashed Explorer.
      3. I assume that you suggested read my help with Windows Explorer random crashes when no directly using NPP?
      4. That may be possible, but how can I tell this action is related to Explorer crashes?

      Thanks.

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      • Mark ColvinM Offline
        Mark Colvin @Nicholas
        last edited by

        @Nicholas
        There were reasons during Win10 x64 usage of staying with NPP x32 instead of NPP x64. I don’t remember that reason at the moment. I think it had to do with another Windows apps running at the same time as NPP and there were problems. I will try to find the details on this decision.

        But I will try disable the Content Menu feature on NPP to see if the Explorer crashes go away.
        I can also try switching back to NPP x64 to see if I can find the reason for staying with NPP x32.

        Thanks.

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        • xomxX Offline
          xomx @Mark Colvin
          last edited by

          @Mark-Colvin

          It is a buffer overflow caused somehow by the NppShell.dll in the Windows Explorer process. As a temporary workaround, you can disable this shell extension by going to your C:\Program Files (x86)\Notepad++\contextMenu\ folder and run there this command in cmd (with admin rights): regsvr32 /u NppShell.dll

          This is a known problem for some users (they reported it for x64 too) but unfortunately I was not able to reproduce it, so I cannot say if it is a problem of NppShell shell extension, Notepad++ app or some other SW. It can also be a conflict with some other shell extension installed in your system (otherwise I cannot explain why most Notepad++ users do not have this problem).

          If you switch to x64 Notepad++ with its x64 NppShell and you still get these Explorer crashes, you can try to follow these instructions to help me with debugging of the issue:
          https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/15683#issuecomment-2492113826

          @Mark-Colvin said in Notepad++ v8.7.1 (32-bit) NppShell.dll is intermittently crashing Windows Explorer.:

          OS Name : Windows 8 Pro (64-bit)

          I am also surprised to see this info when according to your post it should be reported as Win10 or Win11.

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          • xomxX Offline
            xomx @Mark Colvin
            last edited by xomx

            @Mark-Colvin

            Could you please report your Windows Registry relevant info:

            1. Save the following to a file (named e.g. WinVerRegKeys-export.cmd) somewhere writable on your disk:
            PowerShell "$Key='HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion'; Get-ItemProperty -Path $Key -Name *" > WinVerRegKeys64.txt
            PowerShell "$Key='HKLM:\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion'; Get-ItemProperty -Path $Key -Name *" > WinVerRegKeys32.txt
            
            1. Run the WinVerRegKeys-export.cmd batch file by e.g. doubleclicking on it in Explorer.
            2. Take the contents of the created WinVerRegKeys32.txt and WinVerRegKeys64.txt files and post them please here.
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            • Mark ColvinM Offline
              Mark Colvin @xomx
              last edited by PeterJones

              @xomx ,
              posted here are the files you requested.

              Also, I uninstalled NPP x32 and not seen any Windows Explorer errors nor crashes for over 48 hours. (normal laptop usage, about 6 to 10 hours per day)

              WinVerRegKeys32.txt

              
              BaseBuildRevisionNumber   : 1
              BuildBranch               : ge_release
              BuildGUID                 : ffffffff-ffff-ffff-ffff-ffffffffffff
              BuildLab                  : 26100.ge_release.240331-1435
              BuildLabEx                : 26100.1.amd64fre.ge_release.240331-1435
              CompositionEditionID      : Enterprise
              CurrentBuild              : 26100
              CurrentBuildNumber        : 26100
              CurrentMajorVersionNumber : 10
              CurrentMinorVersionNumber : 0
              CurrentType               : Multiprocessor Free
              CurrentVersion            : 6.3
              DisplayVersion            : 24H2
              EditionID                 : Enterprise
              EditionSubManufacturer    : 
              EditionSubstring          : 
              EditionSubVersion         : 
              InstallationType          : Client
              InstallDate               : 0
              ProductName               : Windows 10 Enterprise
              ReleaseId                 : 2009
              SoftwareType              : System
              SystemRoot                : C:\WINDOWS
              UBR                       : 2894
              RegisteredOwner           : __________@gmail.com
              PSPath                    : Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Registry::HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Microsoft\Windo
                                          ws NT\CurrentVersion
              PSParentPath              : Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Registry::HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Microsoft\Windo
                                          ws NT
              PSChildName               : CurrentVersion
              PSDrive                   : HKLM
              PSProvider                : Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Registry
              
              

              WinVerRegKeys64.txt

              
              
              SystemRoot                : C:\WINDOWS
              BaseBuildRevisionNumber   : 1
              BuildBranch               : ge_release
              BuildGUID                 : ffffffff-ffff-ffff-ffff-ffffffffffff
              BuildLab                  : 26100.ge_release.240331-1435
              BuildLabEx                : 26100.1.amd64fre.ge_release.240331-1435
              CompositionEditionID      : Enterprise
              CurrentBuild              : 26100
              CurrentBuildNumber        : 26100
              CurrentMajorVersionNumber : 10
              CurrentMinorVersionNumber : 0
              CurrentType               : Multiprocessor Free
              CurrentVersion            : 6.3
              DisplayVersion            : 24H2
              EditionID                 : Professional
              EditionSubManufacturer    : 
              EditionSubstring          : 
              EditionSubVersion         : 
              InstallationType          : Client
              InstallDate               : 1732282151
              LCUVer                    : 10.0.26100.2894
              ProductName               : Windows 10 Pro
              ReleaseId                 : 2009
              SoftwareType              : System
              UBR                       : 2894
              PathName                  : C:\Windows
              PendingInstall            : 0
              ProductId                 : 00330-53097-84373-AAOEM
              DigitalProductId          : {164, 0, 0, 0...}
              DigitalProductId4         : {248, 4, 0, 0...}
              RegisteredOwner           : __________@gmail.com
              InstallTime               : 133767557516344286
              PSPath                    : Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Registry::HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows 
                                          NT\CurrentVersion
              PSParentPath              : Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Registry::HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT
              PSChildName               : CurrentVersion
              PSDrive                   : HKLM
              PSProvider                : Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Registry
              
              
              

              Sorry, not enough karma to attach files to posts yet. Supplied as code.

              Mark
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              moderator edited to remove real email address

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              • xomxX Offline
                xomx @Mark Colvin
                last edited by

                @Mark-Colvin

                Thanks.
                But I didn’t find anything wrong in your data (that could explain your previously reported Win8).

                But all this gives me the idea that perhaps the affected users here have something unusual/wrong in their Registry, which in turn causes the N++ shell extension to crash. I have checked the NppShell source code and indeed - some parts of the code are not the best in terms of resilience to unexpected input or some resource or data unavailability. I didn’t manage to crash Explorer exactly the same way as all affected users report, but in principle that could be it (maybe I just didn’t simulate the right bad data in the Registry).

                I’ll try to raise some questions in the NppShell project issues.

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                • Mark ColvinM Offline
                  Mark Colvin @xomx
                  last edited by

                  @xomx ,

                  Update: I installed npp.8.7.5.Installer.x64 five days ago without Context Menu feature and fewer plugins. So far, no Windows Explorer crashes.

                  I really miss the Context Menu feature, NPP is so easy to open many file types with this quick step for a quick peek.

                  I will re-configure NPP soon with Context Menu turned on and see if the problem returns. Any advice on data collection for this issue if it re-occurs?

                  TIA,
                  Mark

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                  • xomxX Offline
                    xomx
                    last edited by xomx

                    @Mark-Colvin said in Notepad++ v8.7.1 (32-bit) NppShell.dll is intermittently crashing Windows Explorer.:

                    Any advice on data collection for this issue if it re-occurs?

                    As I already said:

                    @xomx said in Notepad++ v8.7.1 (32-bit) NppShell.dll is intermittently crashing Windows Explorer.:

                    If you switch to x64 Notepad++ with its x64 NppShell and you still get these Explorer crashes, you can try to follow these instructions to help me with debugging of the issue:
                    https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/15683#issuecomment-2492113826

                    So if you can, please follow the instructions in that GitHub comment and then somehow forward me the relevant Explorer crash dump file generated along with a possible NppShell.log.

                    If the GitHub procedure seems too complicated for you - the main thing is to get the crash-dump file while using my special version of the “C:\Program Files\Notepad++\contextMenu\NppShell.dll”, so download it and after the usual reinstall of your Notepad++ with the shell context extension, replace the standard NppShell.dll file there with the file from this archive: https://github.com/user-attachments/files/17850910/NppShell_v1500_x64_Debug.zip

                    If you have any questions about the GitHub instructions, do not hesitate to ask me.

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                    • Mark ColvinM Offline
                      Mark Colvin @xomx
                      last edited by

                      @xomx ,
                      Thank you for the alternatives on this investigation. I will update as I get more information.

                      Thanks again,
                      Mark

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                      • Mark ColvinM Offline
                        Mark Colvin @Mark Colvin
                        last edited by

                        @xomx,
                        Posted dump file and error dialog at:
                        https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/15683#issuecomment-2492113826

                        Saw when open .ZIP file… got the error dialog, clicked retry, and all explorer windows vanished.
                        Hope it helps…

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                        • Mark ColvinM Offline
                          Mark Colvin @Mark Colvin
                          last edited by

                          @xomx,
                          5 hours later, another error with NppShell.DLL, but no new dump file created.
                          This occurred during a copy/paste operation from one Window to another.

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                            xomx
                            last edited by

                            @Mark-Colvin

                            Could you please check if you are not running N++ in Windows8 compatibility mode? More about it here.

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                            • Mark ColvinM Offline
                              Mark Colvin @xomx
                              last edited by

                              @xomx
                              How does this compatibility mode affect the Explorer context menu invocations?
                              The one Shortcut I have is NOW set to Compatibility mode with Windows 8. But rarely use it directly…

                              What about the errors with NppShell.DLL which occur without NP++ even turned on?
                              (I am missing something on how this NppShell.DLL works outside of NP++)
                              See NppShell.log files posted in github thread…

                              Thanks,
                              Mark

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                                xomx @Mark Colvin
                                last edited by

                                @Mark-Colvin said in Notepad++ v8.7.1 (32-bit) NppShell.dll is intermittently crashing Windows Explorer.:

                                How does this compatibility mode affect the Explorer context menu invocations?

                                Good point, this probably influences the N++ app only and not the NppShell extension DLL invoked by the shell Explorer.

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                                • David MSD Offline
                                  David MS
                                  last edited by

                                  Hello,

                                  I have also constantly the problem that NppShell.dll crashes the Windows 11 Explorer.
                                  After uninstalling Notepad++ the explorer runs without crahes.

                                  I use the latest version of Notepad++ (8.7.9).

                                  Does exists a workaround or a fix?

                                  Thank you very much.

                                  Best regards,

                                  David

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                                    xomx @David MS
                                    last edited by

                                    @David-MS said in Notepad++ v8.7.1 (32-bit) NppShell.dll is intermittently crashing Windows Explorer.:

                                    Does exists a workaround

                                    If you mean by this a workaround to not have to completely uninstall the N++ for preventing the Explorer crashes, then yes - unregistering of the NppShell context-menu handler helps: https://community.notepad-plus-plus.org/post/99261

                                    or a fix?

                                    I could not exactly reproduce the issue myself but found some potential problematic places in the NppShell source code and put a “hardening” of that code to my TODO. Unfortunately not enough free time yet. More info and possible future progress in the GitHub issue.

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