@guy038 said: Now if, for any font, you select all the text of that new tab and run an Edit > Line Operations > Split Lines operation, for most of them, indeed, the spliting behaviour occured right after the 78 capital letter P. However, for eample : For the proportional Times New Roman font, the spliting action occured after 76 letters P For the fixed witdh **``Consolas font, the spliting action occured after 77 letters P The explanation may lie in something I discovered while bug-hunting in the Elastic tabstops function of Columns++: when DirectWrite is in use, the width of characters can work out to fractional pixels (this is true for both fixed and proportional fonts); but Scintilla only reports the width of strings as integers. So due to the effect of rounding to integers, the width of a string of 78 letters P is not necessarily 78 times the (reported) width of one letter P. Notepad++ uses 78 times the width of one letter P. (Not that it matters much, since none of this is likely to be what anyone wants or expects anyway.)

@Lycan-Thrope said: Did you make the change permanent No. I made an Issue, so Don can fix it. I don’t have write access to the main website. Update: Oh, I see, after I went through the approvals, that @myfancytextgenerator already guessed that mine was just an issue.

Search++ version 0.8 is available: Fix failure to handle hidden lines markers correctly when executing Show commands with Always hide all lines… not checked and when executing the Show only lines with shown text command on the Tools menu. Track and restore first line and last line hidden states across tab changes. Add Spy (temporarily show hidden lines) toggle to the Tools menu. When spy mode is on all lines are visible even though the markers for hidden lines and collapsed folding groups remain; hidden lines can be restored by toggling spy mode off again. Replace the Reset button in the Expand visible configuration dialog with a Tools button. Make Tools menu keyboard shortcuts work in that dialog. General reassignment of shortcut keys for greater consistency. Quite a few things have changed, so it is important to check the help, the community thread and/or the Tools menu and the Find and Replace box context menus for the new assignments if you use keyboard shortcuts in Search++. I regret the disruption; hopefully this will be a one-time change, and keyboard shortcuts will stay the same after this. There are two big changes in this release: the addition of “Spy mode” and some fairly extensive changes to the keyboard shortcuts to yield greater consistency between mnemonics (underlined letters) and shortcuts, some additional capabilities, and hopefully a generally more logical set of assignments. Those changes are detailed below. There is now a Tools button on the Expand visible configuration dialog instead of the previous Reset button, and Tools command keyboard shortcuts work when focus is in the Expand visible dialog. My rationale for this is that Reset wasn’t very clear, it just did a command from the Tools menu anyway (Show only lines with shown text), and especially with the new Spy toggle available, I’m not at all convinced there’s a reason to give any one command special accessibility. There is a small change in the way the keyboard shortcuts for Show selected/all text (now Ctrl+O / Ctrl+Shift+O) work. Previously, the unshifted version, like the menu item, would show all lines if all selected text, or the caret if no text was selected, was visible. The menu item still changes to Show all lines, not requiring a shift or a right-click, if none of the selection is hidden, but Ctrl+O will do nothing if none of the selection is hidden, so that Ctrl+Shift+O is required to show all lines. My rationale is that especially when spy mode is active, it might be easy to accidentally show all lines when that is not intended if Ctrl+O does both. When using the menu, you have the item text to clue you in. As always, comments, critiques, suggestions, problem reports and experiences are most welcome, and thank you for giving this work-in-progress a try. Spy mode lets you temporarily view all lines in the active document while keeping the markers that define what should be hidden intact. The idea is from this feature request and the subsequent discussion. I expect this to be most useful after a Show command. If the caret or selection is visible on the screen when you toggle Spy to checked, that part of the text will remain in (approximately) the same place on the screen while all lines become visible. That lets you see additional context for the match. You can use Show selected lines from the Tools menu to change the markers so the selected lines are not marked as hidden; then when you toggle Spy to unchecked, those lines will remain visible. The Spy setting is per tab and is preserved when you change tabs and change back again. (As of this release, hidden first and last lines are also preserved.) While you cannot have different hidden line markers or fold markers for the same document in different views (that’s a Notepad++/Scintilla limitation), you can have Spy checked in one view and unchecked in the other. It is possible to use the Notepad++ Hide Lines command or the icon for collapsing a fold block while Spy is checked. In this circumstance some lines will be hidden, but there may be other lines that are marked as hidden or are part of a collapsed fold block that are not hidden. The Spy entry on the Tools menu will then show a bullet instead of a check mark to indicate an indeterminant state. Clicking once will return to full Spy checked state (all lines visible), and clicking a second time will return to normal display. An indeterminant state is not preserved when changing tabs: upon switching back to the tab it will have Spy checked and all lines visible. Spy is new feature. Expect there to be some glitches. If you have the time and patience, reports of your experience will be much appreciated. There were a few interconnected rationales for the keyboard shortcut changes, all centered around trying to make things as convenient and coherent as I can for users who prefer to use the keyboard whenever possible. I am sorry for the disruption to those who are already used to some of these shortcuts; hopefully I have it “right” this time, and I won’t have to make such extensive changes again. I’ll try to list the main changes. They’re all in the help and on the menus, but I can’t guarantee I’ve caught every last one of them here. General navigation — these work in the main Search++ dialog, the Search in Files dialog, the Search++ results window and the Expand visible configuration dialog: Ctrl+F toggles keyboard focus between the Search in Files dialog and the main Search++ dialog. If the target dialog isn’t visible, it is opened. Ctrl+Shift+F closes the Search in Files dialog. Ctrl+R toggles keyboard focus between the Search++ results window and the main Search++ dialog. If the target dialog or window isn’t visible, it is opened. Ctrl+Shift+R closes the Search++ results window. Ctrl+N puts keyboard focus in the active Notepad++ document. Ctrl+Shift+N closes the main Search++ dialog. Ctrl+Shift+Q closes all Search++ dialogs and windows and puts keyboard focus in the active Notepad++ document. Note that all these except Ctrl+N have changed. Also, Ctrl+O and Ctrl+Shift+O, which used to be general navigation commands, are now the Tools commands Show selected lines and Show all lines. Main Search++ dialog navigation: Alt+O (the letter “o”) toggles between the Find box and the Replace box. Alt+1 through Alt+5 (only on the main keyboard, not the numeric keypad) open the drop-down menus on the five search command buttons. These were previously difficult to access by keyboard alone. The third (“Find All”) command button uses the mnemonic (underlined letter) A, S, K or H when the one-click command action is Find All, Select, Mark or Show. (Recall that you can set any command on the drop-down menu as the one-click command for a button by right clicking or Shift+clicking the command.) The Alt key plus that letter performs the one-click command (as it always did), while the Alt key plus one of the remaining letters performs the default command for the associated action. Search in Files dialog navigation: Alt+O (the letter “o”) toggles between the Find box and the Replace box. Alt+T puts keyboard focus in the table of files at the bottom of the dialog. Find and Replace box context menus (in the main Search++ dialog and the Search in Files dialog): Ctrl+G is Exchange Find/Replace (formerly Ctrl+E). This swaps the Find and Replace fields in the dialog in which you are working. Ctrl+Shift+H is Insert Find (formerly Ctrl+F and called Copy Find). This inserts the contents of the Find box in the main Search dialog at the location of the caret or in place of the selection. If you are working in the Find box in the main Search dialog, it replaces the contents of the Replace box with the contents of the Find box. Ctrl+Shift+J is Insert Replace (formerly Ctrl+R and called Copy Replace). This inserts the contents of the Replace box in the main Search dialog at the location of the caret or in place of the selection. If you are working in the Replace box in the main Search dialog, it replaces the contents of the Find box with the contents of the Replace box. Tools menu commands: Show selected/all lines is now Ctrl+(Shift+)O. Expand visible is now Ctrl+E, and configure is Ctrl+Shift+E. Hide all lines is now Ctrl+H. Remove marks from selected text is now Ctrl+Shift+V. Select marked text is now Ctrl+Shift+S. Copy marked text is now Ctrl+P with Ctrl+Shift+P for the configuration dialog. Clear marks [and bookmarks] from active document (formerly Remove marks…) is now Ctrl+Shift+C. Clear marks from multiple documents… (formerly Remove marks…) is now Ctrl+Shift+D. Settings… is now Ctrl+Shift+G. The mnemonic (underlined letter) for every item on the Tools menu which has a keyboard shortcut is now the same as the letter used in the keyboard shortcut. Keyboard shortcuts for Tools commands work when keyboard focus is in the main Search++ dialog or in the Expand visible configuration dialog. In the Expand visible configuration dialog, Ctrl+Shift+E opens or switches focus to the main Search++ dialog.

Tabs v spaces As Peter said, the most important part is consistency. Mixing tabs and spaces together makes no one happy. I will throw out a couple arguments for tabs here: Indentation of code, markup language, et. cetera is meant to show the structure of whatever. Tabs are a logical, structural element. Spaces are physical. Different users may want different sizes of indentation. If i want 4 character indentation and my coworker wants 2, tabs can be set to show our preferred width. Seems for the most part that spaces are winning out though.

@Nephilimi said: I’m actually curious now, is the general population not using this on their servers? There are only a handful of people who have come to the Community Forum from the “server” perspective – and most of those were coming to say, “why don’t you use installation-toolkit-xyz to make IT’s life easier”, and never really went into detail into how they were deploying to that point. And though it might not meet all the needs, the newer MSI installer (new to v8.8.8 in Nov 2025) seems to have quieted those types of inquiries down. So in the Community, while we get great insight into how individual/personal users use Notepad++, we don’t have much insight into the server-deployed side of things. (In our minds – or, at least in my mind – the “general population” are individual users, not server-based users. I have no clue how the numbers actually pan out between the two user-bases; we just get a individual-user-bias in the Forum.) But my guess is that the server-admins had auto-update turned off when they’d install it: either through pushing a custom config.xml to each user’s %AppData% folder, or through using a doLocalConf or -settingsDir to point to a more central config location (or, once the feature was enabled, bundling their own config.xml in the installation directory, which then gets used as the template for new %AppData%-based config.xml), or through deleting gup.exe in the old days or now using disableNppAutoUpdate.xml in the install directory

@Troglo37 , It’s much too late now, but for “open all tabs”, Notepad++ has the session.xml.inCaseOfCorruption.bak, which should be one version of your session file out of date (for example, my session file is dated yesterday at 7:13pm, and my corruption-backup is from 2:37pm that same day). So, in the future, if you open Notepad++, and it doesn’t have all your old session files open, before doing anything (before closing Notepad++ or trying to save or load anything), make a copy of session.xml.inCaseOfCorruption.bak to tryme.session.xml so it won’t be overwritten, exit Notepad++, rename session.xml to bad-session.xml, copy tryme.session.xml to session.xml, and start Notepad++: that should take your in-case-of-corruption session as your active session … so if the previous time you exited and started was good, you should be back to that session. That won’t fix your corrupted stylers (colors). Unless you had a recent change in one off your Style Configurator settings, I am surprised Notepad++ was trying to write to your stylers.xml, because it only tries to write it if there was a change. But maybe the reboot process confused some bit in memory making Notepad++ think it needed to.

Hi, @thomas-knoefel and All, For these Search Results : Search "Fi" (27 010 hits in 646 file(s)) [1 153 file(s) searched], I got, successively, using your valuable instructions : 1 m 13 s 78, then 1 m 10 s 85 and finally 1 m 11 s 06 when LoadThreads="auto" 1 m 25 s 78 and 1 m 26 s 39 when LoadThreads="0" 1 m 09 s 54 and 1 m 09 s 55 when LoadThreads="8" So, the two tests with LoadThreads="8" seem very slightly better !? Note that : From Laptop documentation, my processor is an Intel® Core™ i7-1165G7 2.80 Ghz (up to 4.7 GHz with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology ) 12 MB L3 cache, 4 cores 8 logical processors From informations système, I saw for Processeur : 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz, 2803 MHz, 4 cœur(s), 8 processeur(s) logique(s) Total installed RAM : 32 Gb This explain why I wanted to test with 8 threads. But, may be this assumption is not pertinent ! ? Best Regards, guy038

@PeterJones i just wont bother using notepad++ again, ill go find a better alternative

For the reference: I’ve created https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/18554.

@Guido-Thelen said: And no, it isn’t limited to Standard SQL. The Navigator visualizes the result of the formatter, so it works with every dialect the formatter supports (30+, including MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle, SQL Server, DB2, Snowflake and more). For now it shows SQL statements and DDL. If you run into a statement it doesn’t break down correctly, I’d be glad to get a sample. That’s good to know, that it handles the different variants, and although I don’t get to do a lot of difficult/complex SQL, there are many in the dBASE community who do, as they use dBASE as the frontend interface and ADO to connect with the different SQL backends to replace the aging BDE. I’m sure any of our developers who use the dBASE UDL we made can probably use this as well. I clued them into using CSV Lint and Csv Query plugins for working with manipulating text data before importing it, so this tool will also come in handy. I saw some of their complicated SQL when doing the UDL so I could properly implement color coding, keyword and AutoCompletion features and used their sample SQL statements to test against for color coding and keyword collisions. You’re right, the problem with Workbench is you need a live connection to the data, so this will be a great non-connect SQL diagnostic tool for them. Thanks for doing it and hopefully I’ll be able to play with it sometime soon, but right now my plate is full elsewhere with RL issues.

@mpheath Okay, I’ll check it out. Thanks.

@T.I-Digital-Solutions said: I mainly use Notepad++ for working with HTML, checking page source, and making quick edits during SEO tasks, so I was curious about features that could make those jobs easier. With those specifics, then I’d say good plugins to try would be HTML Tag, Preview HTML, and XMLTools. UDL is not useful for HTML, because the HTML lexer that’s built into Notepad++ is better than anything that the simple User Defined Language system can handle. But if you also deal with the server configuration files (like .htaccess files), then the UDL Collection has a UDL available for Htaccess, for example.

All, Please try and use ComparePlus v3 - it is the latest released version. If you experience any problem with it you could report it directly here or you could write here in the Notepad++ community forum for help and advise from fellow users. I also visit the forum from time to time to check the “news” for our favorite editor :) Good luck and thanks

Hi everyone, I owe the community an apology. My reply in this thread linked to my own website — that was self-promotional and inappropriate for this forum. The question deserved a straight answer without any link attached. I’m sorry, and it won’t happen again. Thank you to the moderators for keeping this place clean.

It looks like @LucaSorvillo took me up on the recommendation: Created new Issue #18496 , so there’s an “open issue” to PR against Created PR#18497 to implement it as a sub-option of the Tab Bar > Behavior > Vertical option

@PeterJones Thank you! I forgot about the keyboard! :-) Out of interest: is it possible to configure Notepad++ in a way that the folder marks are also displayed at the last element of the structure? I once used a program (don’t remember now what it was) where it was possible.

@PeterJones Good info on StyleID, thanks.